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Earth Hour, candles and carbon

There’s one thing in particular that bothers me about Earth Hour – these people who electric lights and then go and light up candles, and think that they’re helping do something about anthropogenic forcing of climate change.

The widespread practice of misguided eco-Luddites turning off their lights for Earth Hour and burning candles as a source of light is grossly misguided and actually contributes to increased carbon dioxide emissions.

Yes, I know candles are nice and romantic – but you’re taking paraffin wax, in the form of a candle, and burning it, very inefficiently, at a low temperature. This stuff is pure hydrocarbon – it’s a heavy alkane fraction distilled straight off crude oil. This stuff is getting so scarce that nations are prepared to go to war just to secure it, remember?

A candle flame burns at a low temperature – so it’s a thermodynamically very inefficient source of energy – and most of the energy released in a candle is wasted as heat, anyway.

Even if 80% of your electricity comes from coal and fossil fuel fired power stations, as it does in Australia, burning candles is very polluting and certainly very greenhouse gas and carbon dioxide emissions intensive, even more so than electric lighting.

If you need to do something that requires light – then leave an electric light on – just one. It’s far more efficient, less carbon dioxide emissions intensive and better for the environment – not to mention much safer than using hazardous candles.

If you want the romance of a candle, try looking for candles that you are certain are made from pure “carbon neutral” beeswax or tallow – not from crude oil in the form of paraffin wax.

Can’t we just put science, reason, rationality, education and reason ahead of trendy politics and trendy dogmas – before it’s too late?

What Earth Hour should not be about is the notion that we want to have a civilisation without artificial lighting – this is absolutely ridiculous. Lighting up the darkness was one of the most useful technological achievements in human history – why would we give that up?

Using electricity for lighting is far more efficient and environmentally sound than the primitive technologies, burning fossil fuels dirtily, at ambient pressure and relatively low temperatures, that came before electrification.

The use of electricity, and the use of electric lighting, is part of our way of life, in a developed, technological first-world society – I, for one, am not prepared to give that up, not the least because we don’t have to.

Light bulbs don’t produce greenhouse gases – burning fossil fuels to generate electricity does.

Let’s focus our efforts on moving away from fossil fuel based electricity generation, and expanding the use of non-greenhouse gas intensive hydroelectricity, nuclear energy, and wind energy, to solve our problems with anthropogenic greenhouse gas emissions.

Earth Hour should be about doing everything that you can to reasonably, sensibly limit your demand for electricity – and we can do this every hour of every day, of course. It makes sense for everyone – after all, you pay for the electricity.

I guess I have a problem with the idea that Earth Hour symbolises something.

It might symbolise something, but it doesn’t actuallydo anything.

The only thing it symbolises is primitive society.

I’d much rather see people spend their Earth Hour doing something that really does count for something.

Instead of spending your Earth Hour bearing with an uncomfortable, dark lifestyle, use that hour to think about the things that we can all do every day to limit electricity consumption, that we will actually bother to do every day, that are compatible with the fact that, yes, in our developed first-world society, we actually use electricity, and we work after the sun goes down. Think about the things that are compatible with our sensible lifestyles in the developed world, and do them, and it works out better for everybody!

Now, let’s consider just how much, quantitatively, this use of candles during Earth Hour is responsible for increased emissions of greenhouse gases.

Postulate I: A typical candle produces about 13 lumens of visible light, from a total power output of about 40 W, most of which is heat.
Postulate II: A 40 W electric incandescent light bulb consumes 40 W of electric power, and produces approximately 500 lumens of visible light output.
Postulate III: The overwhelming majority of candles are made from petroleum, in the form of paraffin wax. Paraffin wax has a heat of combustion of approximately 42 kJ/g, and can be assumed to consist, chemically, entirely of pentacosane – \mathrm{C_{25}H_{52}}.
Postulate IV: The average greenhouse gas emissions intensity for electric power generation in Australia is about 1000 g \mathrm{CO_{2e}}/kWh, and electricity is transmitted with transmission losses of about 7%.

\mathrm{C_{25}H_{52}(g)\ +\ 38\ O_{2}(g)\ \to 26\ H_{2}O(g)\ +\ 25\ CO_{2}(g)}

\mathrm{M(C_{25}H_{52})} = 352.68 g/mol;

\mathrm{M(CO_{2})} = 44.0 g/mol.

Thus, we know the emission of carbon dioxide from burning candles:

\mathrm{\frac{40\ W/candle\ \cdot\ 25\ mol/mol\ \cdot\ 44\ g/mol\ \cdot\ 3600\ s/h}{4.2\ \times\ 10^{4}\ J/g\ \cdot\ 352.68\ g/mol}\ =\ 10.69\ gCO_{2e}} – per candle per hour.

And the rate of carbon dioxide emissions from the electricity generation corresponding to the use of 13 lumens worth of lighting – the equivalent of one candle – for one hour:

\mathrm{\frac{13\ lumens/candle\ \times\ 1000 g/kWh\ \times\ 107\%\ \times\ 40\ W\ \times\ 10^{-3}\ kW/W}{500\ lumens}\ =\ 1.11\ gCO_{2e}} – per candle-equivalent of electric light per hour.

Therefore, for every candle that is burned to replace electric lighting during Earth Hour, greenhouse gas emissions over the course of the one hour are increased by 9.6 g of carbon dioxide.
If the light output from a 40 W light bulb was to be completely replaced by candles, this will lead to the emission of an extra 295 grams of carbon dioxide per over simply using the electric lights – if the equivalent of one thousand 40 W bulbs are replaced by candles, that’s an extra 295 kilograms of \mathrm{CO_{2}} emitted.

In places where a greater proportion of the electricity supply is generated by nuclear energy or hydroelectricity, this increase in greenhouse gas emissions is even larger.

March 31, 2008 - Posted by Luke Weston | Earth Hour, fossil fuels, greenhouse gases | , , | 48 Comments

48 Comments »

  1. Nice post. I was wondering about these numbers.

    Another interesting report I read showed some disappointment with actual energy savings this year (~8%) from last year (~10%), but this didn’t surprise me at all. If this is a ‘lights out’ event, and we’re all swapping to compact fluorescent lights…. wouldn’t the impact be expected to drop each successive year??

    Comment by Ed | March 31, 2008 | Reply

  2. I wondered about this too and found this very interesting but that it could be slightly flawed.

    You’re assuming that everyone will replace each 40W light with 38-39 candles (500/13) to replace the lumens or light. I think most people will only replace each light with some candles and if it is 3 or less on average that are used in place of the light bulb, then it is a reduction in CO2 emmissions from electricity. Also Earth Hour is mainly to get the public more aware of turning of unneccessary lights and other things. I myself wouldn’t have used more then 2 candles per light switched off. Like they say its a start not a solution. Earth Hour does not symbolise a primitive society. Have you ever seen more culture from aristocrats eating at a candle lit table?

    Comment by Robert | April 1, 2008 | Reply

  3. I am currently doing an assignment for atmospheric issues (at uni), about the effect that candles have on the environment. I am going to include a comparison of the greenhouse gases produced by a lightbulb and candles of equivalent luminescence. I’m so glad that I found your post, it will help me out a lot!
    Thanks!

    Comment by Ash | April 5, 2008 | Reply

  4. This issue struck me as a great example of how there are no quick feel good solutions. Earth Hour can not calculate and boost of emission savings and at the same time dismiss the potential emissions of alternate light sources. Without this balance Earth Hour is nothing more then a “Love In” by candle light.

    Don’t get me wrong. I applaud Earth Hour for making the planet think of conservation, yet making this inconsistency apparent is of equal value if we are to effect real change. It emphasizes that making a difference requires critical thought. It is far more of a challenge then simply turning out the lights in solidarity. Highlighting this candle issue demonstrates that we can move the planet to change, but without a full understanding (i.e.: net gain or loss of emissions), we could easy cause a greater problem.

    It is important to shed light on this as it is not just initiatives like Earth Hour, but those of politicians and policy makers that must examine the whole process of proposed GHG reduction where the ultiate difference is not grams but megatonnes. A global net loss of GHG emissions is not likely if we glaze over the subject with good will and egnore the burning flames before us.

    Thanks for your work and interest in the subject.

    Cheers,

    Formula note: I am not familiar with the equations but I think your second answer should be labelled something like equivalent electrical emissions 40 W light bulb per hour or carbon dioxide emissions for common electrically generated light per hour. The current label: “per candle per hour” I believe is in error – it is the same label as the previous answer addressing burning candles.

    Comment by Brian | April 7, 2008 | Reply

  5. You’ve got quite the right idea – I meant grams of CO2 per candle-equivalent (13 lumens) of lighting generated by electric lighting per hour.

    Comment by enochthered | April 7, 2008 | Reply

  6. When you say beeswax candles are “carbon neutral” do you mean they produce no co2, or do you mean they are more efficient and produce less? What would your equation look like if you were using a beeswax candle instead of paraffin?

    Comment by G | April 11, 2008 | Reply

  7. Thanks for the question – it’s a good question.

    The chemical composition of beeswax in a candle is not especially dissimilar to petroleum (paraffin) wax.

    When you burn it, that absolutely does produce carbon dioxide, just like burning a petroleum fuel.

    But it’s “carbon neutral” just like a “bio-fuel”, in the same sense that we talk about “carbon neutral” fuels in that context – like bio-oils or ethanol or biodiesel or so forth. These fuels all produce carbon dioxide when burned – but it’s carbon that is naturally cycled through the ecospheric carbon cycle – not from fossil fuel.

    Comment by enochthered | April 12, 2008 | Reply

  8. Dear Enocthered,
    I have not thoroughly read through your initial post “earth hour, candles and carbon”, but are we saying here that if we were to all only use beeswax candles during Earth Hour, then earth hour would be doing its perceived job? To reduce carbon emissions?

    Comment by pantheress | April 21, 2008 | Reply

  9. Well, then Earth Hour *might* result in a tiny reduction in greenhouse gas emissions. It might result in a tiny reduction in greenhouse gas emissions anyway – but it’s such a small perturbation in the demand that, as we saw last year, it’s statistically indistinguishable from normal variation in instantaneous peak-load demand.

    I wouldn’t consider “Earth Hour’s job” to reduce greenhouse gas emissions – if it does that, it certainly doesn’t do a very good job, and there are better ways to do it.

    Earth Hour should represent everybody thinking about reasonable, sensible opportunities for reducing excessive electricity consumption – but not Luddism. Nobody should feel guilty at all for using electric lighting.

    In a society where 94 percent* of the electrical energy generated is generated using fossil fuels, ordinary citizens using electricity are not to blame for anthropogenic greenhouse gas emissions.

    * Ref: http://www.iea.org/Textbase/stats/surveys/mes.pdf

    Comment by Luke Weston | April 22, 2008 | Reply

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  11. turning of the lights won’t do much to reduce your personal greenhouse gas emissions, but choosing a chicken burger instead of a beef burger will reduce your impact on climate change. gram for gram of meat, beef emits 146 times more greenhouse gas than chicken. for every kilo of meat, beef is responsible for 55.5kg of CO2-e and chicken is responsible for 0.38kg of CO2-e (figures from the Australian Greenhouse Office 2005 inventory).

    forget the damn candles, stop following the atkins diet.

    Comment by anna | June 17, 2008 | Reply

  12. I am presently working on the question as a service and information designer. Your information is exactly what I needed for a lecture.

    To complete, roughly, one needs 180 candles for a compact fluorescent equivalent light producing 2400 lumens (40W of electricity consumption).
    But the candles produces 7200 Watts equivalent of heat, which can be very useful during winter. This is NOT waste but rather misuse.

    And :
    - A candle produces almost 0 g of solid waste
    - A classic light bulb few grams of metal (aluminium, tungsten, nickel-ion, vitrine) and glass
    - A fluocompact light leaves a little more waste, consisting of mercury vapor, electronics, plastic, glass and metal (copper, aluminium…)

    Comment by Alex | January 25, 2009 | Reply

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  25. I agree with you completely, and on nuclear power too. Why are so many people so caught up in gimmicks like Earth Hour and devoted to actually not doing anything about fossil fuel use? T. Boone Pickens and half of our congress actually has people believing that natural gas isn’t a fossil fuel either. I’m getting really frustrated with gimmicks and the lies about climate change and the bizarre fears people have about nuclear power too, when what we are facing is so huge.
    I just wish people would get serious about really clean energy and stop with the lightbulb fixation.

    Earth Hour is yet another gimmick. It didn’t accomplish anything in 2007 and it won’t accomplish anything this year either.

    Comment by Shelly T. | March 27, 2009 | Reply

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  29. 7% transmission losses? Thats baloney. Electrical transmission losses (heat) are massive unless you’re on the 375K line. Additionally, what blend of fuel sources and efficiency of the power plant are you using for your distribution?

    Electric lighting is a huge contributor to the demand on power plants – most businesses, streets, and homes are significantly overlit. Many businesses and municipalities are still using inefficient incandescent, HID, and even PAR lighting. Additionally, to one users point, beeswax candles don’t leave a pollution trail like mercury emissions, asbestos gaskets, and broken glass.

    Let them shut the lights off, maybe they’ll shut their TV’s off too. Overexess and personal indulgence has contributed to the global problem of pollution and problems associated with magnetohydrodynamics. If you are from the auroral zone you will know exactly what I mean from a health perspective.

    VR
    elj

    Comment by Esther | March 27, 2009 | Reply

  30. Symbolism over substance. Other downsides of Earth Hour also include houses that will burn down, ships that will crash due to lighthouses being dark and sweeping blackouts that will occur when everyone turns their power back on.

    It’s really annoying, to boot. A lot of people are going to protest this stupid holiday and turn on all of their lights all day.

    People wake up and quit being sheep. You have a brain, use it. Al Gore, quit being a stupid piece of shit and shut the fuck up.

    Comment by Screw Earth Hour | March 28, 2009 | Reply

  31. In Victoria, Australia, due to the preponderance of brown coal power stations in the LaTrobe Valley, the average emissions intensity of electricity generation is quite a bit higher than the 1 kg/kWh you are assuming.

    e.g. From memory, brown coal has an emissions intensity of around about 1.4 kg/kWh.

    However, this is nit picking. Your point is a great one, and I think this is an excellent post.

    Comment by Chris | March 28, 2009 | Reply

  32. @Alex
    I’m going solely by the numbers in the article here, but wouldn’t the “295 grams of carbon dioxide per over simply using the electric lights” mean that a 40W CFL = 30 candles worth of CO2?

    Comment by cnawan | March 28, 2009 | Reply

  33. [...] Noted the Christian Science Monitor: “As Australian blogger Enoch the Red pointed out after last year’s Earth Hour that an average Australian who tries to replace all the light produced by an incandescent bulb with light cast by parrifin candles will result in about 10 times the greenhouse emissions. [...]

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  34. [...] to see now is with the aid of candlelight, which leads me to my next argument.  According to an article written by an anonymous student at the University of Melbourne in Australia, burning candles [...]

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  35. You may be the first thoughtful liberal I’ve encountered. I hope your intelligence survives the socialist indoctrination of academia.

    Comment by Max | March 29, 2009 | Reply

  36. If you’re replacing every 40-watt light bulb with an equivalent amount of candlelight, then you’re misusing the Earth Hour opportunity. At a local restaurant, every table had about two candles per four people. Meanwhile, lights were off that had been formerly committed to lighting trees, outside walls, signage, water fountains, bottoms of bridges, car lots, steeples, and clouds. The reduction of most excessive lights were not then compensated by more candles. One of our challenges is to counter excessive consumption of resources, and the use of a few candles is a small investment for a much greater return. You can’t begin to change behaviors until people are aware of the issues, and Earth Hour brings attention to our collective consumptive behavior at a relatively low cost.

    Comment by Chuck | March 29, 2009 | Reply

  37. [...] optic Christmas tree and diners in restaurants were greeted by rooms filled with candles, despite candles actually being ten times worse for the atmosphere (if you believe the CO2 myth) than just leaving the lights [...]

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  38. Considering that there are more house fires during blackouts due to misuse of candles, I wonder if there are reports of any house fires starting as a result of Earth Hour? If so, what are the carbon emmisions from an average house fire?

    Comment by EllieG | March 29, 2009 | Reply

  39. PS – during Earth Hour we take the opportunity to phone family and generally sit around talking in the dark – no lights, no TV. And if we need any light for a moment it’s usually an LED or mobile phone rather than a candle.

    Comment by EllieG | March 29, 2009 | Reply

  40. The fallacy of your position is evident in the first two lines: Earth Hour is not about reducing CO2 emissions for a hour, it is about communication. It’s like criticizing Al Gore for flying–you have to fly to communicate effectively with global opinon-makers, just as you have to go on television if you want to tell people who watch too much TV that they’re watching too much TV. If you try to communicate with illiterate TV addicts through thick professorial books, you fail.

    That said, the issue of beeswax candles was hinted at by other comments, as well as the issue of glass and metal waste (not to mention mercury and heavy metals, mining, etc.). Perhaps beeswax candles produce as much smoke, heat and CO2 as petroleum-based candles–but they have a short, often local supply chain and can be produced within a few miles of most inner cities, or even in densely populated urban areas.

    You have to zero base budget if you’re going to have any chance sustainability, let alone ecological soundness. We need to go sustainable if our technological civilization is to survive: sustainability is survival. Everything else is Malthusian.

    Nothing else will do.

    That’s one reason why I don’t think nuclear power is the answer. I don’t care for its mining-based, heavy metal-based, oil-burning giant truck-based supply chain, or the sweeping under the carpet of subsidies (via the military and government-driven, non-market electricity pricing) or the complete inadequacy of current toxic and radioactive waste handling.

    What’s the real price of beeswax versus uranium–from the ground up?

    It is all meaningless until the entire supply and disposal chain has been priced out in realistic ecological and economical terms.

    Comment by Brant | March 29, 2009 | Reply

  41. When you’re done calculating the real cost of beeswax or uranium, you might want to start on the 100,000s of thousands of products and the 100,000s of chemicals and processes (most of which are proprietary and therefore largely unknown except to a few corporate or government chemists employed by the intellectual property holders).

    None of the official lists of chemicals used by industry, agriculture, construction, cleaning, etc., are any where near complete. But you can make a start on the first few 10,000s.

    Find out what things really cost the ecology and the economy, apart from the obvious things like 95% of the predator fish populations being gone, or 85% of the world’s coral reefs being seriously affected by bleaching, viruses, silt, pollution, dragnet fishing, etc.

    Comment by Brant | March 29, 2009 | Reply

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  43. The Earth Hour was not only about turning of the lights but to quit all possible electricity use for one hour. People usually use several appliances, and not only one lightbulb in this hour.
    The message for me was, I can spend one hour without electricity if I decide to. I can even spend it with only one candle lit on.
    What should we do – try to find a way to use less electricity, or build new plants to serve all our endless needs?

    Comment by september99 | March 30, 2009 | Reply

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  45. The worst possible outcome for the environment would be if these clowns got their way and destroyed the economies of the world. Imagine the carbon spewed and other real pollutants emitted as billions of impoverished people resort to candles and anything else they can find to burn for simple light and heat when money becomes worthless and carbon is used as an excuse to tax everything in sight.

    Comment by John the Econ | March 30, 2009 | Reply

  46. Another liberal “solution” like the CFL bulbs leeching mercury into our rivers.

    Other solutions:
    Wind: mills flinging ice into homes, killing and maiming people, destroying property, killing off entire bat populations
    Solar: Entire fields of collectors required to generate enough energy for only one building
    Biodiesel: Killing off the equivalent of an entire country’s agricultural land so Hollywood celebs can look socially conscious

    Workable solutions not PC enough to be allowed:
    Nuclear
    Clean coal
    Drilling for oil

    Yeah, let’s talk about letting science and reason, not emotion, dictate policy. Then the Leftists might regain some credibility, but not before. Currently, they are a childish, hippie joke.

    Comment by democratsarefascists | March 31, 2009 | Reply

  47. Of course, if Earth Hour were about saving carbon emissions for that one hour of ‘lights out’, this article would have a point. As that wasn’t the point of Earth Hour, the article is irrelevant and nothing more than picking holes in the efforts of others to raise awareness.

    Comment by DavidCOG | April 1, 2009 | Reply

  48. “Carbon neutral” is a way of saying I care, without actively doing anything about it.

    The 1999 Coal – CO2 emission of USA would have taken a forest the size of jupiter (120 times earth’s surface) to fix.

    All forms of Bio-fuels do not reduce atmospheric CO2.

    Comment by Sridhar | April 22, 2009 | Reply


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